Stephen Schleicher began his career writing for the Digital Media Online community of sites, including Digital Producer and Creative Mac covering all aspects of the digital content creation industry. He then moved on to consumer technology, and began the Coolness Roundup podcast. A writing fool, Stephen has freelanced for Sci-Fi Channel's Technology Blog, and Gizmodo. Still longing for the good ol' days, Stephen launched Major Spoilers in July 2006, because he is a glutton for punishment.
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FF was compete ass. I went and saw it opening day with my dad, who grew up on Marvel’s First Family and is a veritable FF encyclopedia. I remember watching and just shaking my head … the exposition was far too long and totally neutered Dr. Doom. I do not believe that FF2 will even hold a candle to Spider-Man 3, but from what I am hearing this will be a more action packed and fun ride. I still contend that they casted Reed Richards too young, and they should have either done an Ultimate version or stayed with the classic envisioning …. not a bastardization of the two.
That’s the problem with Official Marvel Movie Product (TM & Copyright). They are homogenizing everything to appeal to everyone. Note the use in Spider-Man of a variation on the “Gwen off the bridge” moment, but changed to incorporate the more recognizable Mary Jane, and also to make him successful, because otherwise it’s too much of a downer. The movies work, so long as you don’t expect comic logic, because comic logic naturally creates open-ended stories. Most movies do not, and generally, SHOULD not have that open-endedness.
If you expect Venom to be just like MacFarlane & Michelinie, or Sandman to be Lee & Ditko’s version, I’m afraid we’ll all just be disappointed. Loving Johnny Blaze as I do, I had to accept that “Ghost Rider” was based visually on the more popular (and merchandizable) Danny Ketch costume in order to enjoy it. Once I got past that dissonance, I enjoyed the movie for what it was: Official Marvel Movie Product, much like Velveeta cheese food product. It ain’t cheese, it ain’t never gon’ be cheese, but that’s only a problem if you’re expecting cheese.
Matthew, that was a great analogy. I too found myself looking at Ghost Rider in that vein … wait Johnny Blaze … with a Ketch costume. Rrrrrriiiiight. However, it was still an enjoyable movie going experience. I understand that for every ticket that they sell, they have to sell at least 10 action figures. I don’t expect this “Official Marvel Movie Product” to follow canon, but I do expect a well put together story for my $9.75.
Agreed. Fantastic Four was very unfocused, and the choice to have Doom be so low-key and Malibu was one of the major problems with it… With any luck FF2 will overcome that, though I wonder if they’ll botch either the Silver Surfer or Doom in their haste to do both.
Anybody know if they’re planning to do the “stolen cosmic power” plotline from FF #57, with the awesome image of Doom on the Surfer’s board?
While using that plot line has been mentioned a few times, I doubt it will be to the letter ir at all. For now, I’m in the “it’s a gonna suck!” camp. If anything FF2 is nothing more than a way to get to FF3 – Galactus.
Word Stephen, in Suburban Philadelphia my theater of choice, a Regal Cinemas charges $9.75 for a regular adult admission. I believe it is still $7.00 for matinées though
I used to pay $8.50 per ticket a few years ago when I lived in SoCal, and only $6.50 for matinees. Crappy movies like FF are the reason I don’t go to the theatre that often anymore, and if so, I hit the early show – which here has just jumped to $6.75.
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FF was compete ass. I went and saw it opening day with my dad, who grew up on Marvel’s First Family and is a veritable FF encyclopedia. I remember watching and just shaking my head … the exposition was far too long and totally neutered Dr. Doom. I do not believe that FF2 will even hold a candle to Spider-Man 3, but from what I am hearing this will be a more action packed and fun ride. I still contend that they casted Reed Richards too young, and they should have either done an Ultimate version or stayed with the classic envisioning …. not a bastardization of the two.
That’s the problem with Official Marvel Movie Product (TM & Copyright). They are homogenizing everything to appeal to everyone. Note the use in Spider-Man of a variation on the “Gwen off the bridge” moment, but changed to incorporate the more recognizable Mary Jane, and also to make him successful, because otherwise it’s too much of a downer. The movies work, so long as you don’t expect comic logic, because comic logic naturally creates open-ended stories. Most movies do not, and generally, SHOULD not have that open-endedness.
If you expect Venom to be just like MacFarlane & Michelinie, or Sandman to be Lee & Ditko’s version, I’m afraid we’ll all just be disappointed. Loving Johnny Blaze as I do, I had to accept that “Ghost Rider” was based visually on the more popular (and merchandizable) Danny Ketch costume in order to enjoy it. Once I got past that dissonance, I enjoyed the movie for what it was: Official Marvel Movie Product, much like Velveeta cheese food product. It ain’t cheese, it ain’t never gon’ be cheese, but that’s only a problem if you’re expecting cheese.
Matthew, that was a great analogy. I too found myself looking at Ghost Rider in that vein … wait Johnny Blaze … with a Ketch costume. Rrrrrriiiiight. However, it was still an enjoyable movie going experience. I understand that for every ticket that they sell, they have to sell at least 10 action figures. I don’t expect this “Official Marvel Movie Product” to follow canon, but I do expect a well put together story for my $9.75.
$9.75? Is that regular pricing or matinee? And I thought 7 bucks for a regular show was outrageous!
Agreed. Fantastic Four was very unfocused, and the choice to have Doom be so low-key and Malibu was one of the major problems with it… With any luck FF2 will overcome that, though I wonder if they’ll botch either the Silver Surfer or Doom in their haste to do both.
Anybody know if they’re planning to do the “stolen cosmic power” plotline from FF #57, with the awesome image of Doom on the Surfer’s board?
While using that plot line has been mentioned a few times, I doubt it will be to the letter ir at all. For now, I’m in the “it’s a gonna suck!” camp. If anything FF2 is nothing more than a way to get to FF3 – Galactus.
Word Stephen, in Suburban Philadelphia my theater of choice, a Regal Cinemas charges $9.75 for a regular adult admission. I believe it is still $7.00 for matinées though
I used to pay $8.50 per ticket a few years ago when I lived in SoCal, and only $6.50 for matinees. Crappy movies like FF are the reason I don’t go to the theatre that often anymore, and if so, I hit the early show – which here has just jumped to $6.75.