As a nascent comics fan in the 1980s, I remember vividly when Spider-Man got his new black costume just before the Secret Wars.  (Yes, the story takes place in Secret Wars #8, but Amazing Spider-Man jumped ahead in the story at nearly the same time as #1 hit the stands.)  A couple of years later, that suit came to life as the fanged goofy goober, Venom, whose action figures had a voice chip that said “I want to eat your brain.”  Y’know, for kids!  When Carnage hit the scene, it was a pretty transparent attempt to replace his sire as a bad guy when Venom became an anti-hero, which made for easy comparisons of the two as baddies, and led to today’s symbiotic query…

The MS-QOTD (pronounced, as always, “misquoted”) hates ’em both, but hates Venom just a tiny little skosh less, asking: Which symbiote reigns supreme: Venom or Carnage?


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Once upon a time, there was a young nerd from the Midwest, who loved Matter-Eater Lad and the McKenzie Brothers... If pop culture were a maze, Matthew would be the Minotaur at its center. Were it a mall, he'd be the Food Court. Were it a parking lot, he’d be the distant Cart Corral where the weird kids gather to smoke, but that’s not important right now... Matthew enjoys body surfing (so long as the bodies are fresh), writing in the third person, and dark-eyed women. Amongst his weaponry are such diverse elements as: Fear! Surprise! Ruthless efficiency! An almost fanatical devotion to pop culture! And a nice red uniform.


  1. Daniel Langsdale on

    Jadzia Dax is quite clearly the superior symbiotically bonded entity. (I reject your reality and substitute my own.)

  2. Jarmo Seppänen on

    They don’t bother me that much, or at least more than any other character that gets pushed constantly over more interesting ones. That said, Venom at least has history and decent origin story behind him. And I started with Secret Wars and got a soft spot for McFarlane Spider-Man.

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